Helwani: You did speak to Mark Ramondi when you came back, right?
Punk: Yeah.
Helwani: Of ESPN, my pal. And you did say that you regretted the way that was all handled. Is that
Sure. I think you can go back and be like I wish I never did the scrum. Scrums are stupid anyway, would you prefer if there just wasn't a scrum?
Punk: Yeah, those things are really cringe. Yeah. Yeah, like it's pro wrestling. Maybe do one, like I did one like the day I came back, I was like this is a big deal. Like I get it, but the problem you have with pro wrestling is just anybody with a Twitter calls themselves a reporter or a journalist or whatever. I experienced it firsthand, the amount of misinformation that came out based on that. And again, I will go back to, you want to believe all that shit? I'm Bruiser Brody, and I'm running around, I'm running through the hallways, and I'm f**king sucker punching people, and all that. Great, man. Awesome. Believe it. Believe it. Because I'm over here, and I'm making money off it. And you ain't, believe it. But it's just the amount of just lies and bullsh**. It feels a little bit good to say that a lot of it is lies and bullsh**, but everyone's gonna the people that don't like me based on that stuff, they don't like me anyway. They're not my audience anyway. I don't know what, I don't know what else to say.
Helwani: Can I ask about, why is there an NDA? So something happened, things happened, people have talked about them, worse things have happened in pro wrestling and in life. Why is there an NDA for this particular one?
Punk: You would have to ask the person that wanted me to sign an NDA.
Helwani: Would that be Tony? I did try to ask him about it one time in an interview.
Punk: I can't imagine it didn't go very well. I can't imagine he answered you.
Helwani: No.
Punk: Yeah. And again, I am very uncomfortable right now talking about this stuff.
Helwani: Okay, I don't want to make you uncomfortable.
Punk: No. I figured it was inevitable when I walked in the door, but I also didn't want to be the guy that was just like, I appreciate that question, Ariel. Can't talk about it for 90 minutes or 60 minutes or whatever, I'm a human being and this is real life sh** that happened. I don't mind talking about it because again I didn't want anybody to sign an NDA to hide some kind of bullshi** that I did,
Helwani: In your mind when that was done, did you think that perhaps you were done with the company?
Punk: Yeah.
Helwani: You would have preferred that. And for the record, did you injure your tricep? Can you tell us that if not, I understand. The incident or was it in the match? Okay. Yeah. Will you ever be able to talk about this?
Punk: I don't know.
Helwani: Is there a..okay.
Punk: I don't know. I don't know how to, I've never had to sign one. I don't know know why does anybody want to talk about it?
Helwani: Just for the record, just to know it's grown into this ridiculous thing.
Punk: Again, just go ahead and believe what you want.
Helwani: So you go away and it's good timing because obviously you never want to get hurt, but we don't know if you're suspended, if you're hurt, if you're recovering from surgery, you just disappear. Did you ever get close to being let go at that point? You said at the beginning of all this, you said, please, let's just do it here.
Punk: Nobody in the company spoke to me for, I don't know, six, six months.
Helwani:How's that possible?
Punk: I don't know.
Helwani: Not a soul?
Punk: [I] paid for my surgery, booked my surgery, thankfully, Dr. Sampson, who I knew from WWE, I have a good rapport with...he helped me with that, but like, all, I was on my own and all that stuff. And, if you think I deserve to be, fired or treated like that's your opinion. It's none of my business what you think of me. It doing this one and the recovery for this one based on how the recovery went for that one, I'm just like, man it's night and day and it's almost the comparison between, places where there's structure and there's protocols and there's professional people in charge of things and I'm not having to research and find a PT. spot. I had no help, like nothing, and that's insane to me. Is that how they treat the Jaguars players? I don't know, but I don't think anybody should be treated like that. If you're a professional athlete, like I had no help. Nobody would speak to me.
Helwani: So ultimately, why did you come back?
Punk: I've got a lot of friends there. And, even though I thought the separate show and separate, separating everybody without, getting everybody in a room and squashing it was not going to work part of me was just like not going to let me go. I'm either going to be sitting at home, or I could try to do some good and if Ican get a crew of people on television and maybe do some fun shows. That sounded fun to me. Okay, preferably I would like to. To be out of here and then I think everybody's happy because I don't do this because I need to I do it because I want to and it's supposed to be fun, especially at this level.
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